Thursday, October 1, 2009

PAS should be told that the Islamic State is a fallacy and does not exist

"To his list, I would add “Islamic state”, because, contrary to popular Muslim opinion, there is not a shred of theological, historical or empirical evidence to support the existence of such an entity".

NO HOLDS BARRED

Raja Petra Kamarudin

'There's nothing Islamic about a state'

Mehdi Hasan

New Statesman, 2 April 200
Mehdi Hasan explains why there could never be a true Islamic state

Like my fellow Muslims, I strenuously object to the lazy conjugation of the words Islamic and terrorism, for the rather obvious reason that there is nothing Islamic about the murder of innocent civilians. Unlike so many of them, however, I also take issue with the term “Islamic state”, and for the very same reason: there is nothing Islamic about a state. The two concepts have nothing in common.

Let’s take the word Islamic. The casual and careless application of this adjective to religious and cultural phenomena alike has blurred the all-important distinction between Islam, the divinely revealed, perfect and infallible faith, and Muslims, the rather flawed, imperfect and very human practitioners of that faith.

As the historian Marshall Hodgson pointed out: “One can speak of ‘Islamic literature’, of ‘Islamic architecture’, of ‘Islamic philosophy’, even of ‘Islamic despotism’, but in such a sequence one is speaking less and less of something that expresses Islam as a faith.”

To his list, I would add “Islamic state”, because, contrary to popular Muslim opinion, there is not a shred of theological, historical or empirical evidence to support the existence of such an entity. Its supporters tend to mumble vaguely about this or that verse from the Quran, or make vacuous references to the life example of the Prophet Muhammad.

But the Quran prescribes no particular model of government, nor does it detail a specific political programme that Muslims must adopt. In fact, the concept of the state appears nowhere in the Quran.

And why would it? In his new book, Islam and the Secular State: Negotiating the Future of Sharia, the Sudanese-born academic Professor Abdullahi Ahmed An-Na’im points out: “You will not find any reference to an Islamic state or to state enforcement of sharia before the mid-20th century – it’s a post-colonial discourse based on a European-style state.”

Many Muslims fall back on a romanticised view of the very first community of believers in 7th-century Medina, ruled by the Prophet himself, and cite it admiringly as their precedent for an Islamic state, but this approach is flawed. First, any historical precedent that revolves around the presence of a divinely guided prophet-as-political-leader seems wholly irrelevant, in an era in which we have no divinely guided prophet to lead us.

Second, the Medina “state” should be seen as a purely political and pragmatic, rather than Islamic or religious, construct. The celebrated pact that the Prophet signed with the various tribes of Medina involved the non-Muslims of the city – chief among them the Jews, who were granted formal equality with the Muslims – recognising only his political and temporal, rather than his religious or spiritual, authority. As the historian Bernard Lewis puts it: “Muhammad became a statesman in order to accomplish his mission as a prophet, not vice versa.”

Third, Medina lacked fixed borders, a standing army, a police force, permanent civil servants, government ministries, foreign ambassadors and a public treasury. To pretend that it can serve as a practical model for the large, complex, post-industrial societies of the 21st century is fanciful.

Today it is difficult, if not impossible, to identify a Muslim-majority nation that could plausibly be identified as a modern, viable and legitimate “Islamic state”. Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shia Iran both loudly proclaim themselves to be such, but to each other they are heresies; they are also dictatorial regimes with terrible human-rights records. How about the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, blighted by military rule for much of its history? Or Sudan, accused of committing crimes against humanity among its own Muslim population in Darfur?

Not surprisingly, Professor An-Na’im concludes that “the Islamic state is a historical misconception, a logical fallacy and a practical impossibility”.

Mehdi Hasan is the New Statesman’s Senior Editor (politics) and the news and current affairs editor at Channel 4



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The Falsity of the Concept of the Islamic State
 
by Abdassamad Clarke

There is no word in the Qur'an or in the hadith literature for 'state'. The Arabic word that is commonly used - 'dawlah' - does not occur in the Qur'an. [The word doulah does occur in the Qur'an. The best exegesis of both dawlah and doulah is in Sultaniyya by Shaykh Dr Abdalqadir as-Sufi.]

Nevertheless, later Muslims used the term, the Ottomans among others. The Ottomans were known as the Osmanli Dawlah and not the Ottoman Empire even though a word for Empire exists both in Arabic and Osmanlica. However, the Ottomans chose the term dawlah specifically in order not to use the term Empire.

The term 'state' begins to take its present day signification in the seventeenth century in Europe, some dating it from the Treaty of Westphalia. Its most essential feature in the modern world is that of a governing entity that legislates, i.e. creates laws, and most usually in our contemporary situation through some form of process of representative democracy.

For the Ottomans, dawlah encompassed the khalifah and his appointees whose job it is to bring the shari'ah into being, but not to create legislation.

The concept of the Islamic state first came about in the modern world by means of the Islamic modernists, so let us first examine the issue of Islamic modernism or modernist Islam. It has various roots, but in essence it stems from a misunderstanding of Western dominance over the lands of Islam, which itself issues from a complete misreading of western history and the nature of Western society. The modernists assume that it was the features of Western society that were unusual to it and different from Islamic modes that gave Westerners dominance over the lands of Islam, and that therefore it is sufficient merely to imitate the West in those unusual features for there to be a resurgence of political power in the lands of Islam.

This is why, we object seriously to the use of the term 'Islamic State', just as we object, if possibly even more strenuously, to terms such as 'Islamic economics' and 'Islamic banks'. All of these concepts are based on the idea that we can Islamicise things which are fundamentally alien to Islam, and Allah knows best.


The above is an extract. The full article can be read here: http://www.bogvaerker.dk/state.html
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Awfully Educated

A funny but enlightening thing happened today. Strange as it may seem, I was having what I thought will be an educated discussion with a graduate teacher.

But I was puzzled after my 'discussion' with her and thought  "what is the meaning of 'education'? "

We were talking about the Kartika case. And this teacher, a seemingly liberal thinking adult holds tightly to the fact that Kartika indeed must be caned. Her reason was simple ... to deter other Muslims from drinking beer. That was it, nothing else.

So I tried to act curious and asked if that warranted a caning ( six times ) and she said in a definitive way: "yes!"

I was rather shocked. But acted otherwise.

I asked her if that caning will indeed stop others from refraining from consuming beer. To which she replied, "well, we have to start somewhere and this is as good a time to start it (caning). As if that was not shocking enough, she went on talking about and believes in 'hudud' laws....you know, chopping off the hands, stoning, the lot. 

She was extremely fuming and condemning the Human Rights Commission for "interfering" in the Kartika's case. According to her, The Human Rights Commission has no right to interfere in the judgement already passed on Kartika by the Syariah court.

At that point, I wondered ( but did not ask her ) what if Kartika was her daughter? Would she have condoned the caning or lashed out at it? Perhaps she would have stood her ground. I will never know that.

But what I know is, these women, pass their time talking cock - about husbands and wives and the usual gossip, sometimes passing subtle sexual innuendos ... sometimes even blatantly ( Islamic? ), but when it came to Islam - as they perceive Islam to be - Kartika deserves to be caned and perhaps even canned - and don't you dare refute!

It's amazing how an educated person who mixes with other races freely, and members of the opposite sex of other races and jokes with them, passes 'mildly naughty' remarks can, under the guise of being seeming liberal, is full of bottled up anger and frustration and unleashes it with venom.

I tried hinting that it was draconian and that the Human Rights Commission was doing the right thing but she would not accept it.

Now, this is a rather sensitive issue so I did not pursue it any further. I wanted to know how an educated person thought about caning a Muslim for drinking beer and that triggered off her innermost feelings and thus surfaced the 'wahabbi' in her. She is not the only educated person who has her interpretation of Islam. Islam as they perceive it to be.





Monday, September 28, 2009

MALAYSIANS

To all Malaysians.

There comes a time, when we heed a certain call - but are we heeding that call?

Let us be united as one nation one race - Malaysian.




MALAYSIANS

Now, this is a photo of me with my Malaysian ( Malay, Chinese and Indian ) friends.

I am standing next to a Muslim - my best friend and still in touch with him. We were and still are, like brothers. Remember, this was taken in 1968 - 41 years ago and Farouk, my best friend and I still keep in touch. He is now in Penang. When he comes to KL, he comes to my place. It is always good to see him and we talk about the good times we shared. Both of us are not in any way affected by acts of recent racist and religious bigotry.

His was at that time dating a Chinese girl, who is in the photo. There was no thinking of having to convert - their love overcame all racial boundaries.

Each time I read about race and religion today, I often look at this photo and take solace in the fact that there still ARE some sane people in this country who will not permit anyone or any regime to influence them and their perspective on the fact that we are ALL Malaysians.

In class, we mingled freely. Race and religion had no place - it could not creep in and divide us. We respected one another and we were FRIENDS. And like all good friends, we ate together and played together.

It seems like we have to look into the past to look towards a better future. 

Actually, we never heard of 'halal' and 'haram' which is now imprinted on the minds of a lot of people. The Muslims adhered to their religion and the others to theirs. We were still together.

A few years ago, Farouk's mother was hospitalised and I went to see her and she still remembered me and was happy to see me. 

My late mother liked Farouk a lot - her petname for him was 'king' - his name being Farouk Sultan.

That reminds me of Deepavali - all my friends came to the house - my Malaysian friends - and had a feast. We ate, drank, talked and laughed. When it was Hari Raya and Chinese New Year - we were all there together - eating, drinking, talking and laughing.

That was the true spirit of inter-mingling. A nostalgic era of a melting pot of Malaysians. 

Tuesday, September 22, 2009

Saira Banu- Dilip Kumar celebrate Eid



Saira Banu and Dilip Kumar are busy wishing friends and family 'Eid Mubarak' today. "It’s always great to share your special days with people who are close to you. Not just friends and family but we also have fans dropping in. Mubarak baad dene ke liye aate hain (Fans come over to wish us on the occasion of Eid) and Dilip Sahab chats with them," revealed Saira.

"I thank and pray to god. I have nothing to ask as god has already gifted me Yusuf Khan and sahab has given himself to me wholeheartedly," she added.

Talking about the celebrations, Saira revealed, "Chicken Biryani, Mutton Biryani and Sevaiyan are must-have food delicacies in our house during Eid. Our friends like Farida Jalal, Nanda and even Dharamji (Dharmendra) often come over to celebrate this festival with us."

Saira concluded, "I wish all my fans Eid Mubarak and let peace and happiness prevail on the occasion of this auspicious festival."

Salman, Govinda celebrate Ganesh immersion

MUMBAI: Bollywood actors Salman Khan and Govinda on Monday joined several Mumbaikars in biding emotional adieu to Lord Ganesh on first day of `visarjan' (immersion).


Salman Khan and his mother perform pooja during Ganesh Chaturthi at their residence. (TOI Photo)

Among the prominent personalities who visited Salman's residence at suburban Bandra for the Ganesh puja ahead of immersion were MNS chief Raj Thackeray, cricketer Yuvraj Singh and actress Katrina Kaif.

Thousands of Ganpati idols, mostly household ones, were immersed at beaches and lakes like Girgaum Chowpatty, Juhu, Marve, Gorai and Dadar admist chants of `Ganpati Bappa Morya, Pudchya Varshi Lavkar Ya' (a popular slogan hailing the elephant-headed God and urging him to come early next year).

Nearly 40,000 civic employees and 500 life guards have been deployed across mandals and beaches for smooth conduct of processions and immersion.

Nearly 44 motorboats and 12 fire brigade boats with necessary equipment have been stationed at major immersion sites across the metropolis.

The annual Ganeshotsav celebrations, that began yesterday, did not dampen the spirits of Mumbaikars as they welcomed their beloved deity despite swine flu scare and terror alerts in the metropolis.

Braving rains, devotees formed a beeline to offer prayers at the Ganesh idol set up by one of the richest and famous mandals, 'Lalbaugcha Raja' in Parel.

Sunday, September 20, 2009

Dear Mr Prime Minister



To the Honourable Prime Minister of 1Malaysia.

Sir,

I don't know if I speak for the others, but there are a few things I would like you to explain - since it was you who created this 1Malaysia.

Please explain what 1Malaysia means - before a lot of us misconstrue your meaning and give our interpretation to others.

I really do not know and am in the lurch as to what exactly 1Malaysia stands for.

To think on a positive perspective - it means - all races, Malays, Indians, Chinese, Kadazans, Ibans - and all the different races - are now Malaysians. Am I right?

One big step was the abolition of the quota system. Then I read and heared it on TV - for all Malaysians to see - that word ... 'bumiputra'.

1Malaysia has no place for 'bumiputra'. That goes against the very essence of 1Malaysia - as I perceive it to be.

Who are these 'bumiputras'?

Can you please go on the air - on TV preferably, and clear the confusion?

I give credit where it is due. I see you as a good leader but I also see a possibilty of a good leader just shouting slogans of 'we are all one' but not doing much about it.

We need mutual respect and mutual respect can only surface with ALL races being equal.

No 'ketuanan' attached to any race, eradication of corruption, no terrorists or harbouring any of them, wiping out poverty, and above all, no race and religion stated in our Identity Cards. All that should be stated is ... Malaysian.

Freedom of worship, no using the ISA on any Malaysian or the OSA, No NEP, Freedom of speech, Freedom of a peaceful demonstration ( which will never occur if it is indeed 1Malaysia ), Freedom of thought and expression - Freedom of the Press, Seperation of Powers, Justice for all and other attributes relating to a 1Malaysia.

The ISA should be used only on criminals. The communists have gone but now we have the infiltration of unwanted racists with ethnic cleansing on their perverted minds.

I see a few positive changes - even on TV - now more of 1Malaysia is being used - salam satu Malaysia ... nice to hear it. But is that the end of 1Malaysia? Does 1Malaysia end there - just talk?

I feel one of the first things you should do is to get rid of BN's component parties - UMNO, MCA and MIC. Here lies the root cause of all problems.

Just weeks after you launched the concept of 1Malaysia came a whole lot of uncouth people - blatantly flouting the 1Malaysia concept - and these people are from the grassroots to MIC, MCA and UMNO.

Either these people do not respect your 1Malaysia or they know something I don't.

Please Mr Prime Minister, Let us think of our children and generations to come - that this land is for all Malaysians. I had a glimpse of it in the 50s. My friends were from different ethnic backgrounds. We never once thought of the other as Malay, Indian or Chinese.

We ate together, played together - fought among each other without making it a racial issue - there was never a thought of a racial issue when we quarreled or fought. There was no Malay who mentioned that he was the master and he belonged to the Master race. We did not even know what that meant. There were no derogatory racial remarks hurled at each other.

The 60s too saw racial unity - but then it was the beginning of 'Islamization' or should I say 'Arabisation', the ketuanan Melayu and claims of Malays being the 'indigenous' people and the other races being migrants - the Landlords vs the Tenants.

Lately, a few days ago, I heard that word again ... the indigenous' people, meaning the Malays. There goes 1Malaysia, I thought.

Sir, surely you must know that Malays, Chinese and Indians are ALL migrants. The Orang Asli is the native of this land.

So please Mr Prime Minister, please educate me on what 1Malaysia really is - what does it really mean.

I am trying so hard to hang on to my interpretation that I am a Malaysian first and then my race. I pray to God Almighty that I am right.

If I am, then I salute you as being the very first Prime Minister of this country who tried to unite all races - you will have made history - you will be remembered as just that and respected the world over.

You have a daunting task ahead of you as I believe that certain quarters ( who are even around you ) do not want this 1Malaysia concept. Being the man at the helm, please get rid of these cretinous cockroaches.

No more hegemony, discrimination, racial and religious bigotry - I believe all of us - and I dare say, even my Malay ( Malaysian ) friends - had enough of this infighting and silly racial prejudice.

I saw and heard you say, 'maaf zahir dan batin', and I hope you sincerely meant it and begin a new era of uniting the multi-ethnic race of Malaysia.

Mr Prime Minister, if it is not you, then someday, there will be a leader in this country, who will release us all from the chains of oppression and free us from the shackles of servitude.

Let us all work together and live in peace and harmony.

P.S. TDM came up with the NEP and deluded the Malays into thinking they were being 'robbed' by the other races, thus creating confusion and animosity among the races. The beginning of a social and cultural milieu.

TAAB woke up one day and came up with Islam Hadhari - which confused the Malays even more.

Then you came up with 1Malaysia - which is driving all of us into an implicit state of confusion.

Is it a some kind of a trend that all PMs should come up with some kind of a dictum to please and give hope to the Rakyat?

Here is one that I believe will be true if this country is not ruled by a dauntless PM:

Things Fall Apart, the center never holds. Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world.

Inventing catchy phrases is one thing ... enforcing it is another.

I am, no matter what anyone says, still optimistic about the country's future. I still believe that someday, this country will indeed be Malaysia Truly Asia.

Friday, September 18, 2009

Malaysian court orders Muslim lovers caned for sex

Associated Press

2009-09-18 12:23 PM

An Islamic court has ordered an unmarried couple to be caned for trying to have sex in a car in the latest of a series of harsh punishments for Muslims in Malaysia, a lawyer said Friday.

Though Malaysia has long been upheld as an example of a moderate Muslim-majority country, recent verdicts sentencing Muslims to whipping for drinking alcohol have made headlines.

Two months ago, an Islamic judge triggered a national debate when he ordered a woman to be caned for drinking beer.

In the latest case, the Shariah High Court in central Selangor state sentenced the couple Wednesday to six strokes of the cane after they pleaded guilty to trying to have sex out of wedlock in their car, said prosecutor Shafezan Rusli.

Shafezan said Islamic religious police caught Mohamad Shahrin Abdul Majid, 29, and Nadiah Najat Hussin, 24, with only their undergarments on in a car at an office parking lot in May.

He said they are appealing the caning as they plan to get married soon, though they have paid the court-ordered fine of 5,000 ringgit ($1,400) each.

They could have been jailed for up to three years for the offense, the lawyer said.

Shariah laws apply to Muslims, who make up about 60 percent of the 28 million population, in all personal matters. Non-Muslims _ Chinese, Indians and other minorities _ are not subject to the laws.

Earlier this week, an Islamic court in another state ordered an Indonesian Muslim man to be whipped six times and jailed a year for drinking liquor at a restaurant.

In July, the same court had sentenced a Malaysian woman to six strokes of the cane and a fine for drinking beer in public. The caning, which would be the first time a Malaysian woman has received the punishment, has not been carried out yet.

Many see the sentence as a setback for the country's reputation as a moderate Muslim nation.

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Comment:

Looks like caning has become trendy - a way of life for some in this country. A past-time for some 'holy' men.

Since when did many see this country as a moderate Muslim nation? In the 50s perhaps.

Then lately the PM came with this 1Malaysia - never did like the sound of it but I gave it the benefit of the doubt. Good things to come. I waited. Then I saw the canings and the cow-head and the slipper incidents and UMNO/MCA/MIC's inaction.

Mr PM, there is no point yelling on TV to convince the Rakyat about your 1Malaysia .... I would like to see what exactly 1Malaysia means.

The Rakyat is still waiting.

Thursday, September 17, 2009

Malaysian waitress who served beer to model faces caning

Malaysian waitress who served beer to model faces caning
Malaysia Sun

Wednesday 16th September, 2009
(IANS)

Six cane strokes await the waitress who served beer to Malaysian part-time model Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno. The model was earlier sentenced for drinking in public by an Islamic court.

The waitress who has not been named was fined RM 5,000 ($ 1,429) and six strokes of cane.

These are the first two cases of women being sentenced to caning in Malaysia where Muslims are forbidden from drinking in public as per the Shariah law.

The waitress, who pleaded guilty, has appealed. A verdict is awaited, The Star said Wednesday.

Kartika, 32, a mother of two, stirred a controversy by insisting that she be caned in public in the presence of her family members and the media.

The case hit international headlines and human rights and women's bodies have appealed for doing away with this mode of punishment to a woman.

The Syriah High Court judge who has sentenced the two women, besides four men in the last five years, is unfazed by criticism and says he is merely performing his duty.

Judge Abdul Rahman Md Yunos makes no apologies for his rulings, the newspaper said Wednesday after speaking to him.

'I am merely carrying out my duties as a court official as well as to society,' he was qouted as saying.

Abdul Rahman, 53, has been a Kuantan Syariah High Court judge in Pahang state since 1996.

Prior to that he was the Chief Kadi, the religious preacher.

On Monday he sentenced an Indonesian worker to serve a year in jail and be whipped six times for drinking alcohol in a restaurant.
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Comment:

What on earth is going on? Now the waitress gets the cane. That's her job -to serve drinks and food to customers. The 'crime' and punishment for doing her duty is - caning!

So how about the others? The Malay waitresses serving beer, alcohol at 30,000 feet asl. Cane them.

The Malay girls serving/taking/holding beer bottles/cans in 7-11... cane them all too.
Not just 7-11 - at every mall and the counters of these malls.

So where do you expect them to work? They are working hard for a living for heaven's sake.

Some work as waitresses for a living and others are directors of PERNAS, Genting Highlands. All these places are synonymous to drinking and gambling. So where do you draw the line?

This is slipping back and falling into the wide waiting manacing arms of the vicious Talibans, Al Qaeda and the Jemaah Islamiyah whose ferocious fangs gleam with joy each time they make a kill. Preacherman, she too was carrying out her duty - as a waitress as well as to the society. She is not as fortunate as you though - sitting high on a bench and passing judgements.

Leave these girls alone - they are doing a job - if they do not do it, they get screwed by their bosses or the customer, if they do it, they get screwed by the 'religious' cops who have nothing else to do but to go around preying on innocent victims.

These religious policemen should be stationed at the right places - to nab the rempits since they are so adept at nabbing offenders. The police force is struggling to clampdown on rempits who are a public nuisance - nabbing these rempits who are a deadly threat to the public, would be protecting Malaysians.